Saturday, November 3, 2012

Quanta update

Back in the good old KDE 3 times there was a quite nice application for doing web development: Quanta+.

The plan was to base Quanta 4 on the same library KDevelop 4 uses - however development for Quanta itself stalled. See also my blog post from exactly 3 years ago - the situation didn't change much since then.

An update for contributors to Quanta/KDevelop plugins:
Last week in Vienna I moved out all plugins from Quanta into their own independent repository; we now have:
each as independent repository allowing to build or work on a single one.

So there is actually a lot happening for Quanta 4 - without even mentioning the kdev-python or kdev-ruby plugins - languages we never had support for in Quanta 3 times.

What's left in quanta? Well - basically an empty skeleton. Quanta is dead. Long live KDevelop.

87 comments:

  1. A good plan IMHO. It works well having web development folded in MS DevStudio, it would be good to see similar in KDevelop with all its Code tool goodies.

    None of the plug-ins you list explicitly handle HTML, is that something that's missing or part of something else?

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    1. The xml plugin handles HTML - also in it's SGML form.

      However development stopped on it and it's hard to continue as it's a bit "overdesigned" imho. Maybe one should be started from scratch.

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  2. Ah the classics - excessive design, nearly as bad as no design ...

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  3. I've always managed my self developed websites with Quanta+. Particularly the ftp client worked perfectly - I just needed to press F8, and the changed files were uploaded to the site. Setting up the FTP account was simple. I haven't found a development kit that does that so easily. KDevelop is far too much for the little things I have to do.

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    1. The kdev-upload plugin allows you to do exactly that. I'll announce the beta release of the plugin later on this blog. (including a short manual)

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  4. Thanks for the update and the work on it. The plan is good, and this was the actual plan back in time. I didn't test yet how it works, so I can't comment on it, i just can say in general why Quanta+ was loved by the user and by the developer:
    - for the users I tend to think it had a good interface that was not so cluttered and was focused to make developing AND publishing websites easy.
    - for the developer(s) it was fun as it actually combined and used almost everything KDE provided (KIO, KParts, XMLGUI, GetHotNewStuff)
    - a bonus was the configuration and easy extensibility with Kommander scripts

    KDevelop does a lot from the second, but unfortunately its UI is far from being user friendly. I use it daily, and sorry, i find it ugly and sometimes confusing. There is a need sometimes for small touches and fixes to make it good, but I don't see this kind of focus in KDevelop development. Just one example: the texteditor (Katepart) menu integration is quite ugly. One could get used to it, but it is not nice. I know it is not easy to do it right, and you need some workaround around it, but it is possible. Or there are some issues with the toolbars (some elements not correctly restored, the debugger toolbar behaving strange from time to time and a certain unstability). Anyway, I don't want to bash KDevelop, as it is my favorite IDE, but in this regard it is behind IMO with what Quanta+ was. It is ahead in many other things though, I like quite some features of the Project view (still misses some of the Quanta features, like "favorite" folders, or remote projects), the VCS integration, etc.

    Once again, thanks for working on this!

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    1. Please report Bugs/Wishes regarding the KDevelop UI to bugs.kde.org or discuss them on the mailinglist.

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  5. I used to love quanta, and used it constantly before it's death. Nothing compares to it.

    I'm using ubuntu 12.10. I've installed kdevelop using apt-get, but it doesn't come with the kdev-xml plugin. The plugin isn't in the repo's either. Nor can I find any instructions on how to install it without install kdevelop from source.

    There are no instructions on employing plugins in the user manual or the FAQ.

    Has the kdevelop project published plugin installation instructions anywhere?

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    1. not all plugins are useable, here a short overview:

      stable:
      kdev-php, kdev-php-docs

      beta:
      kdev-xdebug, kdev-executebrowser, kdev-sql, kdev-upload (not public yet)

      alpha (no release yet):
      kdev-css

      unfinished/unusable:
      kdev-xml
      kdev-php-formatter
      kdev-crossfire


      ....so KDevelop has *no* explicit HTML language support. However you can edit HTML just fine with syntax highlighting, word completion and everyting kate provides.

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  6. Instead of word completion, how about changing of special characters into the respective HTML-code? I am German and publish German texts with the Umlauts quite often. When I typed in Quanta, it just transoformed the Umlauts, e.g. from "ü" to "ü", on the fly. That's extremely useful and much more effective than search & replace.

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    1. Do you really still need that, isn't everything in utf-8 nowadays?

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    2. Well, when I look at some messages I get via E-Mail, I'm sure it's still needed. Scrambled up Umlauts are quite common.

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  7. I have zero interest in Kdevelop. I like using Quanta+ 3.5. The name Quanta should be taken off Kdevelop. It is like KDE4 an attempt to bundle too many programs together. I see no features of the original Quanta in that conglomeration. I think the KDE folk should have wised up when the posts came in from people who were switching to XFCE because of the sluggish and uncertain response of KDE4 and to Claws-Mail because of the unnecessary integration of Kmail with Akonadi.

    The future of Quanta, if it has a future, would lie in taking the 3.5 code and interface and porting it to QT 4. The features of html5 need to be added. The Kdevelop people have another agenda however. I don't need the project control features of Kdevelop. I have been keeping track of software projects since 1968 without the aid of all that overhead. It is a solution looking for an application.

    John Culleton

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    1. If you don't like KDevelop - don't use it. That simple.

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    2. Fine. Now can someone take the Quanta Plus code and port it to KDE4? Same look and feel?

      John C.

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    3. My linux with Ubuntu 11.10 crashed and I had to do a complete reinstall. I had Quanta and used it for years. Trying to recover, I can't get Quanta 3.5.8 to install. The ./configure command errors out because of not finding "kde-config", so no makefile gets generated.

      I'm crushed because Quanta was perfect for my web work. I sure don't want any part of KDevelop.

      If anyone can point me to a tutorial re installing Quanta I'd sure appreciate it.

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    4. Quanta 3 needs kdelibs 3 - also known as trinity. The easiest would be to use trinity binary packages for your distribution.

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  8. OK, so I'm trying to use KDevelop while trying to get my Quanta back running. I found the kdev-upload plugin, downloaded extracted to the kdev folder (right?). How do I get to it from the KDevelop program to set it up? The screen shots don't show that. Sorry, I'm a 78 year old amateur and need guidance.

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    1. see here: http://userbase.kde.org/KDevelop4/Manual/Appendix_A:_Building_KDevelop_from_Sources

      the repository is named kdev-upload

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